Thank you for your
comments. In response, please note that most persons weren't Latin scholars for
hundreds of years when the Traditional Latin Mass was used worldwide, and was
understood, even by children. In fact, many/most(?) people were illiterate in
early generations. And note that 'most persons' in previous generations
understood the Mass better than people do at present – some 70+% of Catholics
today reportedly do not believe in the Real Presence – even though Mass is
commonly said today in the vernacular. You do NOT need to understand Latin to
understand the Traditional Mass.
Note even that the
Pope who called the Second Vatican Council was a strong proponent of the Latin
language, stating that...
of Latin has recently been contested in many quarters, and many are asking what
the mind of the Apostolic See is in this matter. We have therefore decided to
issue the timely directives contained in this document, so as to ensure that the
ancient and uninterrupted use of Latin be maintained and, where necessary,
restored." (Pope John XXIII, "Veterum Sapientia", 1962 A.D.)
You might also find it
interesting to note that Jesus also participated in religious ceremonies in a
language that was considered "dead" at the time, and some of today's Jews still
do so. Chances are most Jews today using such a language would not consider
themselves "scholars" in that language, nor would most of today's Catholics who
attend Mass in Latin consider themselves Latin "scholars" (myself included).
[Note: Of course Jews today, unfortunately, reject Christ, but this is only used
as an example to illustrate the point about language.]
Further, your comment
that "Catholic means universal not just for Latin scholars", seems rather ironic
since the Church was "much more universal" when Latin was used than it is today.
As Pope Pius XII stated...
"The use of the
Latin language prevailing in a great part of the Church affords at once an
imposing sign of unity and an effective safeguard against the corruption of true
doctrine." (Pope Pius XII, "Mediator Dei", 1947 A.D.)
As the Pope who called
the Second Vatican Council stated...
addition, the Latin language 'can be called truly catholic.' It has been
consecrated through constant use by the Apostolic See, the mother and teacher of
all Churches, and must be esteemed 'a treasure...of incomparable worth.' It is a
general passport to the proper understanding of the Christian writers of
antiquity and the documents of the Church's teaching. It is also a most
effective bond, binding the Church of today with that of the past and of the
future in wonderful continuity." (Pope John XXIII, "Veterum Sapientia", 1962
Regarding the Latin
language, perhaps you may find the following resources to be of some
assistance... (click link to view)
Benefits of the Latin Language
Latin Language Facts & Pronunciation Tips
Latin Language is Not That Foreign
Latin Language Reflections
Latin Language Definitions
note that our "arguments" are typically from scripture, popes, saints, etc. and
cover aspects of both form AND language. Regarding the charge that they are "one
sided", please note that we find it an "impossible task" to prudently argue the
other side since many modern ideas simply do not have support from scripture or
popes & saints prior to the 1960's. Furthermore, the results of various changes
also speak for themselves – not to mention making "prophets" out of those who
warned against such changes. Don't take our word for it – research the matter
yourself. You might find it an interesting task to look at individual arguments
and try to find any pre-1950 support for a contrary position from popes, saints,
etc., rather than simply rejecting arguments that do not appeal to you. In your
research, please do keep in mind that Mass is a SACRIFICE, not a "religious
"If any one saith
that in the mass a true and proper sacrifice is not offered to God; or that to
be offered is nothing else but that Christ is given us to eat; let him be
anathema." (Council of Trent).
Once a person has a
firm, accurate grasp on the purpose of Mass, it is easier to get a better handle
on the matter. To this end, you may find information on
this page (and continuing pages) helpful.
In any event, we do
not wish to argue with you. We believe our position is well supported from
scripture, papal writings, saints' writings, teachings from traditional
catechisms, various councils, etc. However, we do understand that you may not
agree with our position. Please know that even if we may disagree with you, we
do not in any way question your good intentions.
We thank you for your
comments and wish you God's blessings.
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